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Will it have potato support?

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:26 pm
by Moo
My laptop is quite shite at playing some newer games, and I'm concerned that since this will run on UE4 I'll have to miss out. Any info?

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:38 pm
by potterman28wxcv
Moo wrote:My laptop is quite shite at playing some newer games, and I'm concerned that since this will run on UE4 I'll have to miss out. Any info?

There is potato and potato. What is your potato like exactly ?

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:08 am
by the-GURU-man
Moo wrote:My laptop is quite shite at playing some newer games, and I'm concerned that since this will run on UE4 I'll have to miss out. Any info?


similar discussion already runs here:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=161

however, I think that haswell generation intel HD graphics may be able to run the game, thanks to UE4 scaleability.

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:19 am
by Moo
potterman28wxcv wrote:
Moo wrote:My laptop is quite shite at playing some newer games, and I'm concerned that since this will run on UE4 I'll have to miss out. Any info?

There is potato and potato. What is your potato like exactly ?

Baked and served with a pickle (mouse) and a slice of ham (keyboard), with a crappy CRT hooked to it. Graphics card is a slice of butter.

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:54 am
by potterman28wxcv
Moo wrote:
potterman28wxcv wrote:
Moo wrote:My laptop is quite shite at playing some newer games, and I'm concerned that since this will run on UE4 I'll have to miss out. Any info?

There is potato and potato. What is your potato like exactly ?

Baked and served with a pickle (mouse) and a slice of ham (keyboard), with a crappy CRT hooked to it. Graphics card is a slice of butter.

I want numbers :mrgreen: or at least which games you are able to run with your PC

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:45 pm
by Moo
Okaaay, here's my specs:

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Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B940 @ 2.00GHz
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 315M
Memory: 4.1 GB
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium SP1


Yeah, I'm not expecting to run GRIP with this. :lol:

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:21 pm
by potterman28wxcv
Moo wrote:Okaaay, here's my specs:

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Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B940 @ 2.00GHz
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 315M
Memory: 4.1 GB
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium SP1


Yeah, I'm not expecting to run GRIP with this. :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDJt0Wyj32U

We clearly don't have the same definition of potato

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:29 pm
by the-GURU-man
potterman28wxcv wrote:
Moo wrote:Okaaay, here's my specs:

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Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B940 @ 2.00GHz
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 315M
Memory: 4.1 GB
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium SP1


Yeah, I'm not expecting to run GRIP with this. :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDJt0Wyj32U

We clearly don't have the same definition of potato


The guy who uploaded the video is running the game on sandy bridge i5 and 8GB RAM, so go figure.
GTA V is running on updated version of an engine they were using even on Wii back in 2006. UE4 is a slightly different beast.
I think that Grip may run on your machine, but barely.
I am worried if it'll run nicely on my i5 3470, 16GB RAM, ATI HD 7750 :D

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:48 am
by Moo
potterman28wxcv wrote:
Moo wrote:Okaaay, here's my specs:

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Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B940 @ 2.00GHz
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 315M
Memory: 4.1 GB
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium SP1


Yeah, I'm not expecting to run GRIP with this. :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDJt0Wyj32U

We clearly don't have the same definition of potato


But that is twice the RAM and a better processor...

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:28 pm
by potterman28wxcv
Moo wrote:
potterman28wxcv wrote:
Moo wrote:Okaaay, here's my specs:

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Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B940 @ 2.00GHz
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 315M
Memory: 4.1 GB
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium SP1


Yeah, I'm not expecting to run GRIP with this. :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDJt0Wyj32U

We clearly don't have the same definition of potato


But that is twice the RAM and a better processor...

OK for the RAM, since I've heard that GTA V is quite demanding on that.

But for the processor, do you really think it matters ?
It's the GPU that does 99% of the computation in a video game, not the processor.

Video card : main component in a gaming PC. It's the GPU who does the computation in a video game.

Processor : Always nice to have a more than 2 GHz one, but for game it's not that useful. Though, it matters if you record encoded videos (encoding/decoding requires a lot of CPU), or if you run some special algorithms. I always remember how i had a single core 1 GHz PC who was running Freespace a lot more smoothly than my dual core 2 GHz laptop, simply because my PC had a graphic card.

RAM : Just as long as you have more than what is required, it's fine. Having more RAM does not increase the speed. But having not enough RAM decreases speed a lot. Formula Fusion is badly optimized and it doesn't take more than 1 GB on my computer, and Windows 7 does not take more than 1.5 GB as far as i can remember, so you're definitely large in RAM

Or at least in theory

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:28 pm
by Broscar
To be completely honest, Moo, I think it's time for an upgrade.

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:59 am
by Moo
Broscar wrote:To be completely honest, Moo, I think it's time for an upgrade.

Yeah, tell that to our budget. :(

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:30 am
by Chris_CE
Yeah sorry Moo, don't expect GRIP to run at all on your machine

We can't optimize for potatoes :/

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:51 pm
by potterman28wxcv
Could anyone explain to me what is wrong exactly with Moo's setup ?
I'm pretty much sure that he can run Formula Fusion at lowest settings and get maybe 30 FPS with it.

I mean, see it this way : I have a 830M which is roughly two times faster than his video card
And I can easily run Formula Fusion at lowest settings at 60 FPS.

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:10 pm
by TheOnLY
The Processor isn't exactly fast either

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:58 pm
by the-GURU-man
I believe most devs today are targeting quad core cpu, dedicated graphics and 8gb ram.

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:41 am
by Broscar
potterman28wxcv wrote:Could anyone explain to me what is wrong exactly with Moo's setup ?
I'm pretty much sure that he can run Formula Fusion at lowest settings and get maybe 30 FPS with it.

I mean, see it this way : I have a 830M which is roughly two times faster than his video card
And I can easily run Formula Fusion at lowest settings at 60 FPS.

Maybe Moo can run Formula Fusion at 20-30fps, but I'm fairly certain GRIP will be way more demanding with it's more open track layout, destruction and particle effects.
That thing is weaker than modern integrated graphics of AMD/Intel chips, man. Having his setup as a development target would be beyond stupid too; you can create low-poly versions of everything, but at a certain point you're running PS1-quality models without any shaders and the game would still run like sh*t, because the CPU can't keep up with the physics calculations (unless Rob absolutely bastardizes the thing, which I doubt he'll agree to).

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:26 pm
by potterman28wxcv
Broscar wrote:
potterman28wxcv wrote:Could anyone explain to me what is wrong exactly with Moo's setup ?
I'm pretty much sure that he can run Formula Fusion at lowest settings and get maybe 30 FPS with it.

I mean, see it this way : I have a 830M which is roughly two times faster than his video card
And I can easily run Formula Fusion at lowest settings at 60 FPS.

Maybe Moo can run Formula Fusion at 20-30fps, but I'm fairly certain GRIP will be way more demanding with it's more open track layout, destruction and particle effects.
That thing is weaker than modern integrated graphics of AMD/Intel chips, man. Having his setup as a development target would be beyond stupid too; you can create low-poly versions of everything, but at a certain point you're running PS1-quality models without any shaders and the game would still run like sh*t, because the CPU can't keep up with the physics calculations (unless Rob absolutely bastardizes the thing, which I doubt he'll agree to).

Hmm I don't know.. I'm still dubitative. I guess Moo will have to tell us if he can run GRIP on his potato :P

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:40 am
by Chris_CE
Pretty much what Broscar said. We can't afford to optimize for every setup on the planet :/

Re: Will it have potato support?

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:40 am
by potterman28wxcv
Chris_CE wrote:Pretty much what Broscar said. We can't afford to optimize for every setup on the planet :/

Please GRIP on mobile phone. :D