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GRIP Video Game Forum • POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race - Page 2
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Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:54 am
by potterman28wxcv

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:29 pm
by Chris_CE

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:06 pm
by WROB3L

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:08 pm
by Chris_CE
I'll be relaying this thread to Rob to have a look

@wrob3l: indeed, you can sustain a drift if you just keep on the gas and play with the handbrake. Would be good to improve this with the drifting in general

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:25 pm
by maniamaster
I voted for the third option, although I must say, driving the tanks especially I could have also gone with the 4th option.
Greatly increasing acceleration is something that could improve this game a ton.
The question remains how this would affect the balancing / closeness of the pack.

Maybe it will even prove useful in the drift / friction issue.

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:39 pm
by Tathendal
Can I change my vote and if so, how? After playing more and after couple of beers (crashing more.. daym.. why is that?) I want to pick the 3rd option instead of the 2nd :D

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:51 pm
by Broscar

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:53 pm
by wantfastcars
I've always liked the feeling of weight in GRIP that isn't present in Rollcage. Don't get me wrong, I love Rollcage, but the cars feel like toys with how fast they zip around. GRIP feels much heavier, and I like that.

That being said, I wouldn't mind the cars having a bit more get-up-and-go. Like others have said, these cars are huge and heavy, the wheels are gonna be pressed hard into any surface they're resting on. Wheelspin doesn't make much sense, and it's really only that first hundred/hundred fifty kmh that's an issue right now.

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:36 pm
by Chris_CE
The wheel spin should be reduced now. We'll take another look at vehicle acceleration once Rob's done a bit more work on car performance in general

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:52 pm
by atv_123
Well... as far as wheel spin goes... these cars would actually be spinning their wheels quite a lot unless the jets provide most of the thrust. I say this because of the fact that if we were to go from 0 to 300kph in 3 seconds, that would mean that we are pulling an acceleration of 27.8m/s^2 or about 2.83G's (in earth gravity). Now, that's not to crazy a number, but assuming these things are using rubber tires, that means that they can only accelerate at about 1G from tire force alone (assuming no downforce... if we used drag radials, that can be as high as 4 G's but then on dirt it would be useless). This means that either more than half of the acceleration comes from the jets, or, until these things start to generate some serious downforce, they will be spinning their tires like a dragster in burnout stage... ON PAVEMENT... nevermind about dirt or snow or whatever else these things drive on. These cars make some serious power, and even though they are heavy, that doesn't mean that they won't be lively.

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:44 pm
by Chris_CE
Yeah but a lot of wheel spin is no fun :p

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:20 pm
by atv_123
This is also true... so... how do we overcome this problem? Well... we have some Giant Jet Engines and tons of thrust at our disposal... we can remedy the wheel spin (from just taming it to completely eliminating it altogether).

If on the tops of the cars (either side... doesn't really matter as long as the force is going the correct direction) we had directed exhaust vents, we could effectively eliminate wheel spin off the line and increase traction. This would basically work like the fan car that was banned from formula one but rather than creating a vacuum below the car, we create a high pressure region above the car instead. Instant downforce from a standstill.

Believable, Doable, Quick Acceleration, No wheel spin (depending on the surface and the amount of force directed to being perpendicular to the car). This could also gradually cut out above about 200 to 300 as the car would then be generating enough downforce to solve these problems for itself :)

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:09 pm
by Chris_CE
^ Rob would appreciate this post ;)

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:32 pm
by atv_123
I think I would like Rob wherever he is hiding at :lol:

To add to this though... Who would not want to see giant fireballs shooting out the top of their rig every time the accelerator is mashed? I know I would think it would look pretty epic! :D

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 5:29 pm
by Broscar
What's the current consensus of the dev team on this issue?

Starting in 1st place on Acrophobia feels really good acceleration-wise with the boost pad and the boost start combined together; I'd love for the rest of the game to feel similar acceleration-wise.

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 2:04 am
by Queadah
Good question & remark ^

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:34 am
by Splotchie
Dunno if I'm late to this but I wanna throw in my two cents.
It's not about realism, but I like the way the slow start builds up suspense and tension and makes the vehicle feel powerful -- more like a war machine than a racecar. The starting grid especially is a great establishing moment that makes me *feel* the sort of power and violence that this game is about before any of it even happens.

There's room for change while still keeping that feeling, but please make sure you at least keep it in mind. A little bit of tiger in me absolutely loves that moment.

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 12:37 pm
by atv_123
You know... I never really thought about it like that... but now that you mention it... whenever I play Rollcage, the cars never really felt large, heavy, or even powerful to me. They honestly felt more like R/C cars (remote control, not rollcage) to me more than anything with their crazy speeds, bouncy collisions, and somewhat mundane sounds. That and this was probably helped along by one of my other favorite games that I always played along side Rollcage being ReVolt. That game also had a car called the Rotor ( ) that you could flip over and keep driving as well and without the brutal acceleration... IT being an R/C car actually felt more massive than the Rollcage cars because it was so slow.

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:24 pm
by Chris_CE
There's been no consensus about the overall acceleration

Rob is in the same mind as the two posts above me. He hated how toy-like the cars in Rollcage felt, so the more we move towards that, the more he will feel the identity of GRIP is moving in a direction he doesn't like.

That said, I think upping the acceleration a little bit (the 2nd poll option) can't hurt

Re: POLL: Let's talk about vehicle acceleration off the line and the ability to get back in the race

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 8:30 am
by MicrowaveYourHamster
Speaking about the ability to get back in the race nowadays: I recently started selecting the more agile rigs with more acceleration even for tracks that seem to be designed for more high-speed circuits/tracks with fewer sharp turns. That's because it's easier to catch up with the opponents after you crash or fall out of the track with a whining hi-acceleration toy. So in the end, taking the tank-like rigs works now for me only on the condition that I don't crash, which is awkward, because the tank-like ones should generally encourage more reckless driving.

Does anyone of you have similar experiences recently?

I have no clue what is the reason behind that shift in my rig selection. Except for, perhaps, that I suck at the game.