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How to make tracks more suited for speeders

Postby TheOnLY » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:00 am

As most people probably noticed the speeder class can not really compete on most current tracks, mostly due to their lack of top speed and the tracks where pretty much every useful route can be taken even by the tank class with full throttle.
I do not think that an adjustment of the stats is needed to make the speeders competitive, slight modifications to the track would probably be enough in most cases and it would keep the identity of the class as tanks are more about about keeping momentum while speeders can get back to speed very fast.

What would that modifications be?
It would almost only involve moving or adding speed pads in areas that can only be reached by speeders at full speed, especially the insides of corner entries or exits, as well the addition of lines with more speed pads that only speeders can take. Doing these modifications would probably be pretty light on resources as no rework or just very slight adjustments of the tracks would be needed.

In the following i will explain and illustrate the specific changes i had in mind. The arrows are not too accurate as the placing of speedpads would need proper testing and adjustments according to its results.

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Re: How to make tracks more suited for speeders

Postby Tathendal » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:12 pm


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Re: How to make tracks more suited for speeders

Postby Queadah » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:39 am

Thinking in terms of racing line is a good idea.
Some suggestions are worth checking for the time devs are sure track terrain is final, sure ;)

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Re: How to make tracks more suited for speeders

Postby Broscar » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:47 pm

Very, very nice post, TheOnLY.
I agree with you. The speeder classes have a noticeable disadvantage on these hold forward to win tracks.
Adding speedpads on the various spots you've pointed out can even the playing field somewhat, so +1






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Re: How to make tracks more suited for speeders

Postby Chris_CE » Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:01 pm

Right now there's a 46 kmph top speed difference between the Cyclone and the Jugg. To me, that's too much. But I agree with your speedpad additions idea, though I think the stats for cars needs a bit of work too as far as speed and grip go. I think now that the physics are behaving more, we could give the tanks less grip (as well as the mid class, slightly)

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1st speedpad: you slow down a lot for this one, I don't really see the benefit
2nd: I don't think anyone will hit this one. Kind of a fluke you made it. It's hard enough to hit the pickup in front of it. I'd say just throw a speedpad behind that pickup a couple car lengths
3rd: looks good
4th: not sure this will be beneficial as the speed boost will send you towards the bump, or if you steer to the right before taking the turn left it will make you need to slow down anyway
5th: looks good
6th: might be tough to take that left with so much speed, but I'll have a look
7th: looks good

The hangar is empty because we haven't had time to invest into it yet. There's plans for a ton of obstacles in there. Also plans to have better speedpad placement. Let's revisit that later in time

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1: Looks great, nice one
2: I'll move that one to the left but I can't see doing the spiral being any faster, but can test it. Tanks are going to blow by there going straight and beat a speedster every time. The next area is prime for allowing speedsters to catch up though
3: This is good, as well as maybe putting pads up on the next wall to the right or left, where tanks won't be able to grab them (while getting rid of the 3 pads in the center at the mouth of the tunnel)
4: I can try these, but I think the one between won't work

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1: I think we could make this work. But the pad will need to be to the left more
2: sounds good
3: looks good
Could have a pad on the right route of the split with the concrete jump as well (area right after U tunnel). Would be on the right side of that right route where there's no way tanks could get it (all tanks usually take the left route)

Sky
All pads look good, and that crazy shortcut will work, I just need to move the second checkpoint so it's not in that missed loop


Thanks for putting this together Only
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